Quit Buying Cars On Credit – 15 Reasons to Pay Cash

I was involved in an interesting chat on Bogleheads a while back.  There was a new attending who had a $12,000 car loan at 5% he was considering paying off.  I told him this:

Quit buying cars on credit. Pay this one off ASAP and then keep putting the payments into a “car account.” When it comes time to buy your next one, you can use cash. There’s no reason for anyone, much less a physician, to buy a car on credit.

Another poster responded:

I disagree with the “no reason for anyone… to buy a car on credit” advice. Rates are currently low enough that some people could get a car loan, pay a relatively small amount in interest for the car, but end up saving much more come mortgage time because they were smart enough to build credit history. Since the OP [original poster] has no student loans, he probably has no other installment accounts, so the car loan is probably benefiting his credit score.

In response, I came up with 15 reasons why buying a car on credit probably isn’t a great idea.


1) You buy too expensive of a car

Basic transportation is available very cheaply. You can get a 10 year old economical commuter for less than $2K. The availability of credit encourages too much consumption.

2) Interest costs

Given that cash-equivalent investments are paying 1% or worse these days, even financing at 2 or 3% is costing you something, especially after-tax.

3) Finance charges

Cash buyers don’t pay them.

4) Smaller selection of cars to buy from

Guess what? If you want to come buy my car I’m not going to finance it nor wait while you dink around with a credit union. You better have cold hard cash. So that leaves you to go deal with those who are willing to either finance it or mess around with whoever you’re going to finance it through. That’s fewer cars to choose from.

5) Higher price

On the same reasoning as above, you can get a great deal from me if you wave twenty $100 bills in front of my nose. If you have to go down to Low Book Sales down the street, you’re going to pay more.

6) Credit Scores Are Stupid

A good credit score is so easy to get without doing dumb financial things that it is no reason to take on debt. How about buying your gas on a credit card and paying it off at the end of each month? That’ll give you a credit score you can get the best mortgage rates with after a year or two. Not enough credit lines? Get two cards and alternate them.  Too many of us worry about our credit scores anyway.  I hope to never need mine again.

7) Cash Flow Constrained

So you decide to borrow the money to buy your car so you can leave your cash invested. Guess what? You still have to service the debt. You’ve got to come up with a few hundred bucks a month. If your income drops or another opportunity comes up or whatever, that cash flow isn’t available. It’s best to have low fixed expenses and high variable expenses. Buying things on credit reverses that.

8) Living On Credit Mindset

If you finance your car, why not your TV, and your furniture, and your house, and your vacation and your kid’s college and borrow from your 401K etc etc etc.

9) Screw-ups

One missed payment not only hurts your credit score, but also tacks on additional fees. It might not even be your fault. Maybe your employer sent the paychecks out a day late.

10) Satisfaction of Living Without Debt

You don’t get to call in and scream “I’m debt-free!” on the Dave Ramsey Show.  Seriously though, talk to someone who has paid off their mortgage and ask if they’d take out another mortgage on the home at a very low rate.  Most won’t because it is so satisfying to live without debt in this world.

11) Insurance costs

If you own it you can go liability only. The bank wants you to fully insure it. And a more expensive car has higher insurance too. That cheap beater you could have paid cash for is dirt cheap to insure.

12) Registration fees

More expensive cars (the kind you go into debt for) cost more to register each year.

13) Sales Tax

Same drill. Paying cash encourages you to buy less. Less car, less tax.

14) Cars depreciate

It’s one thing to buy a house that you expect to keep up with inflation on credit. The longer you wait to buy a car (while you save the money) the cheaper that car gets.  In fact, the terms on auto loans are getting so long these days (5-8 years is not uncommon) that many buyers actually find themselves upside down on their loan.

15) Leverage Goes Both Ways

Many argue that they prefer to keep low interest loans and invest and hopefully earn on the spread.  It’s great when it works for you. But it works both ways. Here’s what Warren Buffett says about it:

By being so cautious in respect to leverage, we penalize our returns by a minor amount. Having loads of liquidity, though, lets us sleep well. Moreover, during the episodes of financial chaos that occasionally erupt in our economy, we will be equipped both financially and emotionally to play offense while others scramble for survival. That’s what allowed us to invest $15.6 billion in 25 days of panic following the Lehman bankruptcy in 2008.

 

Now I’m not a Dave Ramsey-esque extreme anti-debter.  I do understand that forgoing 401K contributions to pay off your 0.9% student loans might not be that wise.  But far too many people who plan on investing the money they would have used to pay down loans or buy a car never get around to it.  It’s a behavioral finance thing, and it’s an easy trap to fall into.

If those 15 reasons aren’t enough to convince you, feel free to buy your cars on credit. There are dumber financial things that most Americans do every day. But for a physician, who likely makes $10-30K a month, to have to take out a loan for a car, is what I call a negative status symbol. It tells me he has no idea how to manage money. He should be able to save up for an average used car in the same amount of time it takes to shop around to buy one.

What do you think? When is it okay to buy a car on credit and when is it folly?

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Quit Buying Cars On Credit – 15 Reasons to Pay Cash — 18 Comments

  1. ‘because I simply love the new smell of leather’ according to a young public doctor at a seminar on tax reduction last week ( new and purchased on credit) :/
    Depreciation/assets/liabilities had to be explained to him/her.
    Of note, the accountant suggested buying new car on credit if you are in private practice so that you use other peoples money, put more into your business and can claim interest /depreciation etc to reduce tax. Note: this is Australia.

  2. I totally agree with you. I just sold my used car (2002 Dodge Neon) yesterday for $200 more than what I paid for it 2 years ago. Buying used is the way to go.

  3. Agree completely with your assessment on cars. Just re-located to Nebraska – and they really sock it to you for car registration/yearly ‘sales’ tax, esp for the newer/more expensive models. But your comment on home mortgages caught my eye. You wouldn’t take out a mortgage for a new home? I just sold my old house, and bought a new one (not closed yet), about twice the house for 2x the money. My CPA strongly encouraged me to get a loan on 80% (avoids personal equity insurance requirement), as rates are under 3% here. He’s expecting interest rates to bump up considerably in 2 – 5 years, feels using ‘other peoples money’ is smart. I have the funds, liquid, to simply pay off the house – so I could go either way. Your comments appreciated. Great blog, btw.

  4. I’m not sure which comment you’re referring to about houses. I think houses are a bit of a different story because even docs have trouble paying cash for a house. Plus, they generally at least keep up with inflation (rather than depreciating). When you consider the low interest rates available, and their tax-deductibility, I’d put a house in an entirely different category. But I still wouldn’t use it as an ATM by pulling cash out by refinancing, whether the goal was to spend it or even to invest it. I have a 15 year mortgage on mine, and hope to have it paid off in 10, even at its very low interest rate.

  5. For my commuter car, I bought a small toyota brand new with 0% financing for 5 years 4 years ago. The total cost of the car was 18k with taxes and fees all inclusive. Car today is worth 14k to a second party if I wanted to sell it. Also, it has all the safety features. Sure if I paid cash I would have saved $500 bucks, but I feel I made more in interest.

    I think the new cars are better because of all the safety featues. Also, making 30k/month I feel I should have a car that is reasonably safe.

  6. Reasonable car, reasonable cost, though buying it ‘up front/cash’ looks do-able with your income. Can you use interest on the loan as a deduction? I’d say yes. But big difference in your choice, and buying a BMW.

    AFA paying off your mortgage early – I wonder if that’s best use of assets. If you can have a tax-deductible mortgage at, say 3%, does it make sense to carry that, and invest your funds elsewhere? That’s the argument my CPA is making, but that’s assuming I can do that, and not lose the principle in the process. Full disclosure – I’ve never been in debt. except for a short period when I had a mortgage for first house, which I paid off quickly. And yes – I love not owing anyone anything, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the smartest way to go. As I age, I’m getting smarter/better at this – but man, it’s sure taking a long time!

  7. My only problem with the take the cash out at a low interest and invest elsewhere argument is that your CPA is assuming a guaranteed investment yielding more than the loan you’re paying (Is he guaranteeing it?). If you are using the mortgage interest tax deduction to factor in your investment, then you have to worry about that still being available to you in the future and also the liquidity of your investment if the deduction is removed and you need to pay the loan.

    The only reason I’ve ever considered (haven’t ever done it) financing a car was at the 0% initial rate and paying off before interest was charged, but I hadn’t considered the financing charges (and other things you listed), so thank you for this list.

    Full disclosure, I’m still in school, have only a lot of student loan debt, and have yet to buy a house or expensive car in my life.

  8. Joe-

    A couple of comments. First, it’s pretty unusual that an $18K car is still worth $14K after 4 years. That tells me one of a few things is going on. Perhaps you got a fantastic deal. This is quite possible given the market issues going on in the auto industry 4 years ago. Or that particular model holds its value very, very well. I’m assuming a camry or something, so that’s also possible. Or more likely, you’re overestimating its value as a trade-in. A typical depreciation rate is that a car loses half its value in the first 3 years or 40-50K miles.

    I hear the safety argument a lot. But it’s pretty hard to argue that a 3 year old car is tons safer than a brand new one. There just aren’t that many safety innovations every year. My 2002 has airbags, antilock brakes etc. That’s probably a good argument not to drive a 30 year old car though. But this post isn’t so much on whether to get a new car or a used car, it’s about paying cash for whatever you decide to get. On an income of $30K a month, that shouldn’t be an issue, even for a BMW.

    • I think getting a car with ESC (standard as of 2011 models due to government requirements) is a big deal; the IIHS or Government safety organizations say that it is the biggest safety innovation since air bags, I believe. Aside from that, I think a used mid-sized car that is a few years old with low miles is a great deal for most people. (Camry, Sonata, Fusion)

      • The ESC on my Sequoia drives me nuts and makes it hard to spin donuts in parking lots. There’s always a new safety innovation coming out. If you must have the latest and greatest, you’ll need to buy relatively new cars. That’s fine. Spend your money how you like. But make sure you can afford it. Paying cash is the best way to ensure you’re buying something you can afford.

  9. The math argument is a separate issue, and one that is quite arguable. Mathematically, you probably will be better off most of the time taking on very low interest debt such as a 0% financing car deal or a low interest rate mortgage and investing the difference for the long term. But that depends on several things. First, you have to actually invest the money. Far too many people just turn around and spend it on something else. So mathematically it might be right, but behaviorally it can be quite wrong. The second issue is that you’re assuming things work out as you plan. Investments don’t always go up. It really sucks to invest on borrowed money, and then lose money on the investment too. And if you stick with guaranteed investments these days, especially after-tax, there isn’t much arbitrage there, even with a 0% car loan or a 3% mortgage. Third, if you finance, you still have to pay finance charges, even with a 0% interest rate. It isn’t actually free money. Fourth, people forget about servicing the loan. If you buy something with cash, you’re done paying for it. It is no longer a fixed monthly expense. In a few months or a few years, if you lose your job or you decide to cut back or you get disabled or whatever, you don’t have the debt hanging over you. Keeping your fixed expenses low is a great safety valve in case of personal or national economic badness. Last, don’t forget about the opportunity cost of the money you’re using to service the loan. Sure, you could take that $18K you would have spent on the car and invest it. But then you’ll be paying $500 a month (or whatever) for a few years. If you’d paid cash, you could invest the $500 a month. It isn’t quite as good as having the money up front, but you shouldn’t forget about it either.

    George- Interest on a car isn’t deductible, even if you commute in it. The only way to make it deductible is to have the car owned by the business and used only for business. Commuting expenses are not deductible. I suppose you could take out a home equity loan and buy a car with it. That would be deductible. I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong avoiding debt, even if you miss out on some minor arbitrage opportunities occasionally. Ask someone who owns their home free and clear if they’d take out a mortgage on it. At least 9 times out of 10 you’ll hear a “No way!”

  10. I bought my 2006 Acura TL six years ago just after I finished fellowship with cash I had saved up through residency. Still drive the car and love it and plan to drive it for at least another 3-4 years. Only thing different I would do different is to buy a 2-3 year old used car next time instead of a new car, of course with cash.

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  12. No need to buy a 10 year old commuter when a 2-3 year old corolla/accord/camry can be had for so cheap. With proper dealing techniques, even a new car can be had for atleast 18-20% off MSRP {not compact cars). I am of the thought that if u like a luxury cars and have enough saved up to pay cash for most of it, then go for it. Just as one wouldn’t be happy eating bread and carrots every day just because “they fulfill basic nutritional needs {not really, but its an analogy}” and are cheap; many aren’t satisfied by just having simple transportation. Survival in this nation is easy. Basic house, car, food and entertainment is available to anyone who is willing to work. But we all want to do more than just survive – right?

    If you are willing to make all your life’s decisions based on logic, then nobody should buy a house on a mortgage either. It’s true most of the time house prices go up while cars always go down, but as we saw with the recent housing bubble that this is not always the case. A two bedroom apartment will serve just fine for a family – if all they need is a roof over their heads. Then why do most of us want atleast a 4 bedroom house with a 2 car garage and backyard? Why do so many have pets which cost so much but are really only a luxury? The truth is that there is nothing essentially wrong with any of the above mentioned things but only with the fact that how each person/culture/nation describes as a need or necessity is very very different. Although I agree with WhiteCI that buying new cars is not a wise choice for some {if not all} people, then neither are 4 bedroom/2 car garage homes, new clothes, pets, bottled water, non essential objects etc. Just remember you CANT have everything {unless you are a billionaire}. As ‘regular’ people, we need to choose our luxuries. Most assume they can have it all.

  13. I’m of the belief that, if you’re saving 20% of gross income on retirement and are ok with doing that for a few decades, do whatever the hell you want with the rest. Just as long as you’re not teetering, and can meet your obligations with some amount of ease each month.

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  15. Is there any place for a 2 yr low cost loan with pretax money on a used, slow to no depreciation car with pre-tax money when you I have short mileage to work situation and later (2yr)selling it and avoiding those taxed dollars? I realize there is opportunity cost of money lost.

    • I’m not sure I understand why you can make payments with pre-tax money but not pay the whole bill with pre-tax money. I also think it can get pretty squishy paying for your car with pre-tax money, even if leased, but I suppose if you use it 100% for business you can justify it.

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